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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / May 2008Kriega R35
Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html It's an impressive bit of kit, no question (comes with a 10 year guarantee, which is impressive for something specifically aimed at cack- handed bikers like me). Although for 95 sodding quid it wants to be. I also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :) http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html The R35 can be added to, by clipping on additional packs, to give it up to a 35+10 or (according to Infinity, although the Kriega web site doesn't support the theory) 35+20 litre capacity, but I've stuck with the plain 35 for the moment as a) they didn't have any packs in stock and b) my back's complaining enough about biking as it is, without loading even more on ... this way, I have no choice but to pack light. From experimenting just now, it seems to carry itself fairly high on the back, which seems like a good idea, and might even keep it out of the way of the gixer's solo seat hump. Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made, although of course not waterproof, which is going to mean bin-bags a go- go for the TT trip tomorrow [2], which looks like it's going to be soggy as f.ck - I think Champ had the right idea, chickening out early. [1] yeah, I know, but Kriega dealers aren't thick on the ground and they had one in stock and the chaps there today seemed better by far than Saturday's mob and it's only 10 mins from my front door and ... [2] coincidentally, a bulk order of Brabantia 50 litre bags turned up yesterday, so I'll take a small roll of those :)  SignatureBear > also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet, > on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :) > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html that's not a wallet, that's a manbag. -- d. In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7- 4c79d8779bca@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says... > > also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet, > > on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :) > > > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html > > that's not a wallet, that's a manbag. <worried> That's gaylord, yes? *sobs uncontrollably* SignatureBear > In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7- > 4c79d8779...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > That's gaylord, yes? just a tad. > *sobs uncontrollably* pull yourself together. -- d. In article <579a911e-386c-40d0-9d74- fbddc785529b@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says... > > In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7- > > 4c79d8779...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > just a tad. Well I've been messing about with it and I have to say it's a very useful device for making sure all one's essentials are in one place ... mobile, check, shedloads of cash, check (and it's capacious enough even for EKS), keys, check ... I'm sorry, but I quite like it. It's still sodding overpriced though, although apparently that quality of Cordura (1000D) is sodding expensive stuff. > > *sobs uncontrollably* > > pull yourself together. I'm over it now. Although Kriega's definition of "35 litres" seems a bit smaller than Berghaus' - but we shall see, come the packing this evening. SignatureBear > In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7- > 4c79d8779bca@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That's gaylord, yes? Undoubtably. > *sobs uncontrollably* You big puff SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now > to Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html Look at the price of the waist packs. Bloody hell. SignatureHog '06 ST4-S '03 ST4-S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 > > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now > > to Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Look at the price of the waist packs. Bloody hell. I'm EKS - it's essential :) SignatureBear > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html > > Snip review 1000D Cordura is tougher than old boots. The boy has a school bag made out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term. Now into it's second year and still no holes or tears. > > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to > > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term. > Now into it's second year and still no holes or tears. I'm working on the theory that a) Kieran uses this stuff, and he's of a similar "solid and manly" build to myself (so it should fit) and b) anyone offering a 10 year guarantee on stuff they're flogging to bikers has to be either barking or bulletproof. SignatureBear > > 1000D Cordura is tougher than old boots. The boy has a school bag made > > out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term. > > Now into it's second year and still no holes or tears. > > I'm working on the theory that a) Kieran uses this stuff You know, he really doesn't look that Irish. Signatureogden GSXR750 K4 RGV250 VJ22 > > > 1000D Cordura is tougher than old boots. The boy has a school bag made > > > out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You know, he really doesn't look that Irish. I'm blaming my spillchucker [1] [1] it's entirely innocent, but I'm going to blame it anyway SignatureBear > I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and > it is damn funky :) Is it as funky as my duct-tape one? http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221 SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X > > I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > > Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221 Oh it's miles funkier than that. Less gaylord too. By several orders of magnitude. I've got a nice bottle green leather wallet I've had for ages, but for travelling I needed something a bit more rain-resistant. SignatureBear >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221 Want. I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and I'm not afraid to use them... Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted wisdom? SignatureZX-10R > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted > wisdom? Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good. SignatureBear >> >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a >> >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good. I looked at that and thought ten quid was a bit steep, but you're probably right. I rigged it all up last night to check where I'd fasten them down and discovered that the 10R _really_ wasn't designed for touring. Bugger all to tie-down to. But judicious use of bungies and straps meant things just about avoid the exhausts and stay put. or at least they did for the 50 mile test ride. SignatureZX-10R > > Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good. > > I looked at that and thought ten quid was a bit steep, but you're > probably right. Lidl or Aldi do it for about 3 quid for 10 square foot. Alternatively, pop down to a camping shop. SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X > >> >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > >> >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > things just about avoid the exhausts and stay put. or at least they > did for the 50 mile test ride. <UKRM Recommend What You Own Mode> Kriega R35 :) </UKRMRWYOM> Or, and I haven't tried these, but have heard they're fine; ventura rack & pack. SignatureBear >> >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a >> >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good. Wot e' said. SignatureColin Irvine BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of > > the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember > > Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted > > wisdom? > > Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good. It's true. I bought some and put it in my garage about a year ago with a view to using it when touring. In that time, I've had no new scratches appear on my bikes due to luggage. I have, otoh, acquired a big iron-shaped burn in the living room carpet and several of my fish have died. YMMV. Signatureogden GSXR750 K4 RGV250 VJ22 >> > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of >> > the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >view to using it when touring. In that time, I've had no new scratches >appear on my bikes due to luggage. I did get some last night. Re-fitted the luggage and found a new way of mounting it that gives a good 2 inches clearance off the exhausts when the panniers are fully loaded. SignatureZX-10R >Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of >the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire. Can you take a photo and whack it on flickr once it's loaded up, it might just be you've worked out a better way to fit them on? >>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of >>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. > >I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers >as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire. I got Oxford Sprint panniers, as the chappy from Oxford said they were specifically designed for bikes with high-level exhausts and would work fine on the 10. They've got heat-proof material on the bottom and sides. http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=109&pid=277&p= Oh, and he said the 10R needs the Humpback tankbag, not the Sprint one. So I got one of them with a magnetic base. http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=16&pid=2&p= >Can you take a photo and whack it on flickr once it's loaded up, it >might just be you've worked out a better way to fit them on? Done... http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2530428751/ http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2531246704/ http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2530429171/ This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore giving even more clearance to the exhausts. As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that (mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker. SignatureZX-10R >http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=109&pid=277&p= Ahh completely different to either of the sets of panniers (originals andthe smaller humpback version) I have. >Oh, and he said the 10R needs the Humpback tankbag, not the Sprint >one. So I got one of them with a magnetic base. > >http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=16&pid=2&p= My large tankbag fits ok, so I'm not worried there. >>Can you take a photo and whack it on flickr once it's loaded up, it >>might just be you've worked out a better way to fit them on? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore >giving even more clearance to the exhausts. Yeah, that looks sort of ok, I think my main problem was I sort of hung them over the sides more. I'm sure there's a workable way to do it ,although the idea of getting a spare pillion pad, to attach a 52 litre hard luggage case to might be the easiest answer of the lot. >As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that >(mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on >ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans >run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker. > This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll > hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans > run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker. ICWBW, but that doesn't look like it's going to work *at all* ... those exhausts are miles higher than the end can on, say, a 9R. <Suicidal Sid Mode> Tailpack? Might work better. Lozzo had a huge Oxford one that was truly cavernous. And expandable sideways too. Worked a treat - I didn't die once. </SSM> SignatureBear >> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll >> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >ICWBW, but that doesn't look like it's going to work *at all* ... those >exhausts are miles higher than the end can on, say, a 9R. Nah, it'll be fine. Oxford say those were designed for bikes like the 10 and will work. SignatureZX-10R > >> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll > >> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Nah, it'll be fine. Oxford say those were designed for bikes like the > 10 and will work. Ah well, in that case, no worries :) <makes mental note to avoid flaming shreddie debris on M6> SignatureBear >> >> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll >> >> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ><makes mental note to avoid flaming shreddie debris on M6> I believe them, they were going to give me some to write a review, but couldn't get them to me in time, so I bought some. SignatureZX-10R > >Ah well, in that case, no worries :) > > > ><makes mental note to avoid flaming shreddie debris on M6> > > I believe them, they were going to give me some to write a review, but > couldn't get them to me in time, so I bought some. Kinell, when you prod Fate you really prod it, eh? SignatureBear >> >Ah well, in that case, no worries :) >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Kinell, when you prod Fate you really prod it, eh? :-) Everything will be perfectly fine. That said, on my test ride last night I smelt burning and I've never stopped so fast in my life. Turned out some farmer was burning stuff in his fields. SignatureZX-10R >>> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll >>> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Nah, it'll be fine. Oxford say those were designed for bikes like the >10 and will work. It won't be their pants burning on the side of the M6.... but good luck. > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork > > of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. > > I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers > as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire. If funds allow, http://www.bags-connection.com/hecktaschen/ SignatureKrusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250 > > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork > > > of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > If funds allow, http://www.bags-connection.com/hecktaschen/ Wow. Dat schpeedpacken looks ein bit cool. SignatureBear > > > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the > > > > paintwork of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Wow. Dat schpeedpacken looks ein bit cool. It's good sh.t. I know a few MV owners who swear by it. SignatureKrusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250 > > > > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the > > > > > paintwork of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > It's good sh.t. I know a few MV owners who swear by it. It certainly looks rather funky. SignatureBear >>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of >>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. > >I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers >as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire. What happened to the Heath-Robinson rack you used last year? SignatureStatto Daytona 955i SE in black K75S also in black GT750 on tour >>>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of >>>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >What happened to the Heath-Robinson rack you used last year? Still got it, but it's not practical for popping on and off the bike if I was to do a proper touring holiday. I suppose I could try and molish it into a mk2 version > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of > the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember > Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. It's what I use... > Is this still accepted wisdom? ...so probably not. SignatureChris > I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and > I'm not afraid to use them... JFGI. There are instructions all over the web. > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of > the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember > Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted > wisdom? Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price. SignatureEddie eddie@deguello.org His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!) >Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a >motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The >same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in >Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price. I got some for a couple of quid, labeled as rug-anti-slip-matting, or something. >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and >> I'm not afraid to use them... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in >Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price. Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it? SignatureZX-10R > >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape > and >> I'm not afraid to use them... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it? Not in my tool drawers it's not, I have the thick ribbed rubber mat. SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X > > >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape > > and >> I'm not afraid to use them... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Not in my tool drawers it's not, I have the thick ribbed rubber mat. <Wayne's World Mode> "Ribbed for her pleasure ... ewwwwwwwwwww". </WWM> SignatureBear > <Wayne's World Mode> > > "Ribbed for her pleasure ... ewwwwwwwwwww". > > </WWM> Years ago I used to let my kids watch Waynes World and WW2 to keep them schtumm for a few hours, knowing most of the jokes would go over their heads. We were in the car and youngest daughter says in front of the other two "Daddy, what's pubes?". "Pardon?" says I, "What's pubes, cos Garth just got his on Waynes World". How do you explain to a 7 yr old that one day she'll resemble a gorilla between her legs. SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X >> Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a >> motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The >> same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in >> Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price. > > Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it? That's the stuff. Also sold in small pieces as dashboard anti-slip mats, but more expensive; IIRC, Colin mentioned that horsey shops sell it in big rolls, too. SignatureEddie eddie@deguello.org His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!) >>> Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a >>> motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >expensive; IIRC, Colin mentioned that horsey shops sell it in big rolls, >too. You probably do. I don't! SignatureColin Irvine BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and >> I'm not afraid to use them... > > JFGI. There are instructions all over the web. Here for example: http://www.rpi-polymath.com/ducttape/duct_tape_wallet.html > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and > I'm not afraid to use them... Sod that, for 15 quid + p&p, I've bought one. Signatureogden GSXR750 K4 RGV250 VJ22 > > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sod that, for 15 quid + p&p, I've bought one. I''ve had mine about 3 years now and it's nowhere near worn out IIRC Brownz has one too. SignatureLozzo Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X > > > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > > > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I''ve had mine about 3 years now and it's nowhere near worn out According to the slip that was in it, if it falls apart I can send it back and get a replacement anyway. To be fair though, the leather one I bought at Next for about the same money 9 years ago is still in top form, so if this falls apart any sooner I shan't be overly impressed. Signatureogden GSXR750 K4 RGV250 VJ22 > > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a > > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sod that, for 15 quid + p&p, I've bought one. "* Large Cash Dispenser" Bargain, those things can hold upto £80,000. Signaturefrag <stuff, numbers, more stuff> > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm > It's an impressive bit of kit, no question Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs. <snip> > Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made, Make sure you put it on then pull the cords to get it properly tight. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to > > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Make sure you put it on then pull the cords to get it properly tight. Yeah I've read the instructions - the lower harness pulls it into the small of your back, rather than loading your shoulders, which is bob-on for me. SignatureBear >>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to >>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > small of your back, rather than loading your shoulders, which is bob-on > for me. Makes a hell of a difference when you're actually riding as well IME. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to >> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and >has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs. Could you get http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html in one? SignatureZX-10R >>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to >>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Could you get http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html in one? Comfortably, in a slip case. And it survived a (minor) off as well. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to >>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Comfortably, in a slip case. And it survived a (minor) off as well. Goodie, ta. SignatureZX-10R >>>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to >>>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Goodie, ta. pleasure SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one. And, in typically fuckwitted Bear style ... ... while looking for my waterproof gloves (which I can't find), I've found my Berghaus Dart 35, which a previous top-to-bottom search failed to locate :) [1] Bollocks! Ah f.ck it, I'll try the Kriega anyway ... should be good for a laugh. [1] I'd stuffed it *inside* my Oxford sports throwovers - doh! SignatureBear |
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