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Rope - 30 May 2008 15:27 GMT say, the SouthWest.
Apparently, if I'm average[1], I can expect to live another 20 years.
Not a long time, is it?
[1] and give up smoking, drinking, cakes, pies, and biscuits.
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Eiron - 30 May 2008 18:40 GMT > say, the SouthWest. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > [1] and give up smoking, drinking, cakes, pies, and > biscuits. You can prove anything with statistics. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2048821/Residents-in-the-South-West-live- longest.html It may be something to do with healthy old people retiring to these areas.
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wessie - 30 May 2008 19:38 GMT > Rope wrote: >> say, the SouthWest. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You can prove anything with statistics. well, at least 93.6% of the time
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2048821/Residents-in-the-South-W > est-live-longest.html It may be something to do with healthy old > people retiring to these areas. That is certainly part of it. As well as healthy you need to add in wealthy and middle class.
I live in a county in the upper quintile. The county next door, just 5 miles away, is in the lowest quintile.
The difference between the two counties is social, political and economic. My county, Monmouthshire, is predominantly rural or residential for people in white collar jobs along the M4 & M5 corridors. Beyond agriculture, the main employers of blue collar workers are in the service sector: supermarket distribution centres; hospitals; shops & catering. Monmouthshire has usually elected a tory MP.
The other county, Blaenau Gwent, has a large proportion of its residents who worked in heavy industry or mining. It will take at least another generation before all of the people with mining related illnesses are accounted for in the stats. Once this period has elapsed then BG will tend towards Monmouthshire as the heavy industry has largely gone. There is no mining and the towns are fast becoming domiciliary for white collar workers. BG has usually elected a Labour MP in recent decades, but that may change in the near future.
If anyone else likes this sort of social trends bollocks then the full report, rather than the press release is at www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_health/HSQ38_Final_WEB_file.pdf
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steve auvache - 30 May 2008 20:07 GMT > My county, Monmouthshire, is predominantly full of people who wannabe middle class and can't actually afford to live in the prosperous power house of the British Economy but who yatter on all the time about pretensions they know they can't actually even aspire to. Like watching a nation full of Hyacinth Buckets it is only more funny cos they believe it whereas she is fiction and so don't actually believe in anything.
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wessie - 30 May 2008 20:42 GMT >> My county, Monmouthshire, is predominantly > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > more funny cos they believe it whereas she is fiction and so don't > actually believe in anything. yebbut, who wants to live in Scotland?
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Beav - 30 May 2008 20:11 GMT > say, the SouthWest. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > [1] and give up smoking, drinking, cakes, pies, and > biscuits. Give all that up and you wouldn't f.cking WANT another 20 years.
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Rope - 30 May 2008 23:53 GMT Beav spoke:
> > [1] and give up smoking, drinking, cakes, pies, and > > biscuits. > > Give all that up and you wouldn't f.cking WANT another 20 years. Heh.
My Dad was diagnosed with Angina and qwack advised giving up smoking & drinking (he had smoked 40+ woodbines a day all his life and worked in a glass factory)
He did.
Best mates dad was similarly diagnosed about the same time - had smoked Capstan all his life, and worked down't Pit.
He said f.ck That!
My Dad died within 12 months, of Bowel Cancer.
Mates Dad went on another 7+ years, until he died of Lung Cancer.
Oh, and HBDTM, BTW.
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Beav - 31 May 2008 12:57 GMT > Beav spoke: >> > [1] and give up smoking, drinking, cakes, pies, and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > My Dad died within 12 months, of Bowel Cancer. When your number's up, it's up is how I look at things.
> Mates Dad went on another 7+ years, until he died of Lung Cancer. A pal of mine went to the doc's about 20 years ago with "restless legs". She told him could either stop smoking, or lose a leg. When he asked if he could choose which leg, she just about gave up on him.
He died recently of a totally unrelated ailment and he was in a panic towards the end in case he was given something that would stop him smoking.
> Oh, and HBDTM, BTW. Call me a c.nt, but wtf?
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