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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / November 2008Call me Paranoid but....
This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up £10/month for extended warranty insurance on our now 12 month old Sky+ box. The paranoia comes in when, this very weekend just gone, the box popped up with an on-screen message saying that it was downloading a software update - do not switch off or disconnect for up to 10 minutes.  SignatureRob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabiolet Easily confused. > This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky > warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > was downloading a software update - do not switch off or > disconnect for up to 10 minutes. Thats a forced download i think you'll find, ahd someone been f.cking about with it? SignatureNige, 'Here it comes' Range Rover Td6 Vogue BMW K1200S Suzuki GSX-R1000 K3 BMW F800GS Audi A3 Cab Nige spoke: > > The paranoia comes in when, this very weekend just gone, > > the box popped up with an on-screen message saying that it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thats a forced download i think you'll find, ahd someone been f.cking about > with it? There had been a short power cut, otherwise no. SignatureRob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabiolet Easily confused. 'Rope' wrote...> > This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky > warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > was downloading a software update - do not switch off or > disconnect for up to 10 minutes. Sky update their software every couple of months or so, its a perfectly normal occurance. Normally done in the wee hours or during the daytime, so working peeps never see it. Ignore the warranty demands. You can pick up a second hand Sky+ box cheaper than the cost of these warranties. Signaturefragmented >Sky update their software every couple of months or so, its a perfectly >normal occurance. Normally done in the wee hours or during the daytime, >so working peeps never see it. > >Ignore the warranty demands. You can pick up a second hand Sky+ box >cheaper than the cost of these warranties. Mine had the HDD blow up the other day, after at least 4 yrs of daily use. I dropped an old 160GB IDE one I had lying around in it, and did a system rebuild.. and it started working again, the only issue seems ot be that the box has gone into suspend a couple of times and doesn't seem to recognise the planner again when it wakes up. Might look into getthing an HD box instead, or maybe V+.. really need to weigh up the options and costs of each. >Might look into getthing an HD box instead, or maybe V+.. really need >to weigh up the options and costs of each. If (obviously) you're in a cabled area, a V+ box + their 20meg service is a joy and delight, mate. The V+ box is a *cough* bit *COUGH* noisy, mind, and runs hot enough to fry eggs on it. The Virgin EPG and UI is streets ahead of Sky, and the V+ box has an extra tuner - we don't watch /that/ much, but a couple of times the PITA has occurred when we've sat down to realise it's halfway through two recordings and so we can't watch a third channel - either watch one thats still recording (from the start, obv) or one already completed and on the HDD. We miss our V+ box. SignaturePip: B12 >>Might look into getthing an HD box instead, or maybe V+.. really need >>to weigh up the options and costs of each. > >If (obviously) you're in a cabled area, a V+ box + their 20meg service >is a joy and delight, mate. Interesting. It's odd but sky seems the cheaper option unless I'm doing the sums wrong. I think it's having the sky movies pack in my current mix that stings on the virgin version of same though.. >The V+ box is a *cough* bit *COUGH* noisy, mind, and runs hot enough >to fry eggs on it. The Virgin EPG and UI is streets ahead of Sky, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >We miss our V+ box. I quite like the ability to watch iplayer on it - would be interesting to see how good the quality is though. > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:11:35 +0000, Pip > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I quite like the ability to watch iplayer on it - would be interesting > to see how good the quality is though. The PS3 Iplayer is quite good too - www.ps3iplayer.com. Quality is best described as poor but no real problems. Ebuyer were selling some excellent PVR boxes recently (digihome 160 and 80gb) for £60 for the 160gb model. Tescos were selling the same PVR (I think branded as Teknica, although looking slightly better in gloss black rather than silver) at £100. These can do two recordings at once with a firmware update (a PITA to do - done via a serial cable and hyperterminal) but not sure about watching a third (presumably that would need three tuners). Then again it is extremely unlikely that there would be *three* things I would consider worth watching on at the same time. >>We miss our V+ box. > >I quite like the ability to watch iplayer on it - would be interesting >to see how good the quality is though. It's the same quality as normal tv. You can't tell the difference between an 4OD, Iplayer or Virgin provided on demand content. SignatureGSX-R1000K8 >>>We miss our V+ box. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >It's the same quality as normal tv. You can't tell the difference >between an 4OD, Iplayer or Virgin provided on demand content. Interesting. It's a shame virgin haven't got much HD content, as their "L" tarrif looks like good value for money, the broadband seems a bit more expensive than sky's though. >>>>We miss our V+ box. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >looks like good value for money, the broadband seems a bit more >expensive than sky's though. I've got the L TV package. Only HD channel you get is the BBC one, which is a shame, I'd like to have the Discovery ones, but you can't even get them on the XL package. A lot of the ppv movies are available in HD, but I guess Virgin will catch up quickly. Broadband probably is more expensive than Sky, but frankly cable internet is far superior to ADSL. I get a consistent 10Mb and even Virgin's traffic shaping doesn't get in the way if you're clever. SignatureGSX-R1000K8 >Broadband probably is more expensive than Sky, but frankly cable >internet is far superior to ADSL. I get a consistent 10Mb and even >Virgin's traffic shaping doesn't get in the way if you're clever. Ahh, but I get 12.5, uncapped, on my ADSL for £10/m. >>Broadband probably is more expensive than Sky, but frankly cable >>internet is far superior to ADSL. I get a consistent 10Mb and even >>Virgin's traffic shaping doesn't get in the way if you're clever. > >Ahh, but I get 12.5, uncapped, on my ADSL for £10/m. To all intents and purposes, it is uncapped. They just knock your speed down for a couple of hours if you take the piss at peak times. Do your downloading during the day and they don't care. I think list price of mine is 25 quid, but in the grand scheme of the tv, phone and internet bundle it's price doesn't really matter. The quality of service is excellent though. SignatureGSX-R1000K8 >>It's a shame virgin haven't got much HD content, as their "L" tarrif >>looks like good value for money, the broadband seems a bit more [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >internet is far superior to ADSL. I get a consistent 10Mb and even >Virgin's traffic shaping doesn't get in the way if you're clever. As to the cost, it apparently depends how it is calculated. Virgin Media have so many offers and promotions, you really need a man what knows to sort it out for you. I'm sure I posted about it when it happened, but this is how it worked for me: I was researching relative costs for Sky and Virgin, and the only way online was to register (with contact details). A couple of days later a lovely Virgin chap came round and laid it all out for me. "If you take the minimum package/service in any category, then upgrade, you qualify for refunds. If you take another category, there's inducements to take a third and more inducements offered to 'go larger'. We ended up with XL TV for the price of L, XL (20meg) cable internet for the cost of 5meg, and the L phone service was effectively free. With that and freebie egg-frying on top of the V+ box, it was a right bargain. I don't think you can do that yourself, though - you have to have somebody who knows the rules and the dodges (and is keen to push you into the bigger services) to enable the 'upgrade path' for you. SignaturePip: B12 >>>It's a shame virgin haven't got much HD content, as their "L" tarrif >>>looks like good value for money, the broadband seems a bit more [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >have somebody who knows the rules and the dodges (and is keen to push >you into the bigger services) to enable the 'upgrade path' for you. Aye, it's awkward. I pay 62.50 a month and get phone, 10mb internet and the L tv package alongwith a V+ box. I've spent time on the phone to them before trying to get the cost down with their "exisiting customer" offers, but the V+ box screws it up because I've had it since it came out and am on an old contract. Anything else to give me what I've got would actually cost more. > Aye, it's awkward. I pay 62.50 a month and get phone, 10mb internet > and the L tv package alongwith a V+ box. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > up because I've had it since it came out and am on an old contract. > Anything else to give me what I've got would actually cost more. IKWYM. We've got phone, broadband & TV, all on the lowest packages. I'd like to upgrade but I don't want the kind of outlay you have per month. We already pay a fair bit more than the standard charges as we use movies on demand fairly regualrly as there's so much sh.t on normal TV these days. SignatureChris >> Aye, it's awkward. I pay 62.50 a month and get phone, 10mb internet >> and the L tv package alongwith a V+ box. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >use movies on demand fairly regualrly as there's so much sh.t on normal >TV these days. I don't mind the cost. I think it's actually reasonable for what I get and on-par with total cost of all three services from Sky+BT. SignatureGSX-R1000K8 >>>>It's a shame virgin haven't got much HD content, as their "L" tarrif >>>>looks like good value for money, the broadband seems a bit more [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >up because I've had it since it came out and am on an old contract. >Anything else to give me what I've got would actually cost more. Apparently you can pay a one off £75 for the V+ then it switches to £5/m. Possibly without changing anything else about the package. To compare with Sky though I'm slightly better off paying £47 and getting 12.5Mb Broadband (theoretical max = 16Mb) all the regular channel mixes + all the movie channels. I kept my phone with BT on purpose and that's £11/m with inclusive free UK calls. > Virgin > Media have so many offers and promotions, you really need a man what > knows to sort it out for you. I keep waiting for a free-broadband-installation promo. I'm not currently overly bothered about not having it, so ain't in a rush. As such, I'm buggered if I'm paying their installation costs, especially as I'd need to go for the "premium" Saturday job. > I quite like the ability to watch iplayer on it - would be interesting > to see how good the quality is though. We have normal ex-NTL Virgin and the Catch-Up and iPlayer services are very good. You can detect a bit of compression occasionally but the quality is fine. SignatureSimon We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Rope <spam@ukrm.net> saying something like: >The paranoia comes in when, this very weekend just gone, >the box popped up with an on-screen message saying that it >was downloading a software update - do not switch off or >disconnect for up to 10 minutes. That's normal. The software update last weekend fubared one or two of my 2D channel lists on the card and sent my digibox into a sulk, both thankfully cured by a rescan and reboot respectively. > This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky > warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > was downloading a software update - do not switch off or > disconnect for up to 10 minutes. That will teach you for leaving it plugged into the telephone line > > This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky > > warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That will teach you for leaving it plugged into the telephone line If you're going to reply to the retarded, could you be a sport and snip sigs, there's a good fellow. Thanks. Signature2002 Yamaha R1 Saab Aero Sport We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "METWO" <metwo@hotmail.co.uk> saying something like: >That will teach you for leaving it plugged into the telephone line Telephone line would have had buggerall to do with it. Snip sigs. >> This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky >> warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >That will teach you for leaving it plugged into the telephone line It's such a shame that software updates are delivered via the sat. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- Triumph Tiger 955i -- http://www.bgn.me.uk - Touché - -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 Rope <spam@ukrm.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky >warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up >£10/month for extended warranty insurance on our now 12 >month old Sky+ box. Are you sure it's from Sky? SignatureVeggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine 'Veggie Dave' wrote...> > Rope <spam@ukrm.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece: > >This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Are you sure it's from Sky? Exactly. There's been a number of reports on Watchdog about bogus companies getting hold of the Sky customer database and sending official looking letters out, trying to pretend they're Sky. Watch out for scamming phone calls for the same thing too. Signaturefragmented Veggie Dave spoke: > Are you sure it's from Sky? *Ding*! - it's very well done, but in small print at the bottom it is from "Digital Satellite Warranty Cover Ltd" I won't say where they are, because it would just give ammunition to the scouse-bashers. SignatureRob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabiolet Easily confused. >This last week we have been pestered by mail-shots from Sky >warning us of dire consequences if we don't stump up >£10/month for extended warranty insurance on our now 12 >month old Sky+ box. Ignore it. Sky don't offer an extended warranty. My mum recently signed up to some package with some cold caller who would protect all three of our boxes for £30/mo. When I found out about this I gave her a good talking to for giving her bank details to fucktards who call up who also said if anything went wrong with the boxes then Sky would charge £250 per box to replace it. I already knew this to be bullshit and rang Sky to clarify. They said they don't do such a programme and if one of our boxes snuffed it they charge a callout charge of £75 regardless of what's wrong. So for that one can get a new dish, cables and three new boxes. Plus if it's not fixed and you need to call them out again then you don't have to pay the callout charge again. Think about it: If your box dies and Sky want to charge you a stupid amount to fix it then you'd just cancel your account with them, wouldn't you? That leaves them with no income from you. It's in their interest to fix it and keep you happy, within reason. >The paranoia comes in when, this very weekend just gone, >the box popped up with an on-screen message saying that it >was downloading a software update - do not switch off or >disconnect for up to 10 minutes. Software updates happen quite often on Sky boxes, always have done. Don't worry about it. You just don't normally see the message as you're snoozing. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- Triumph Tiger 955i -- http://www.bgn.me.uk - Touché - -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 Bgn spoke: > Ignore it. I was planning on doing so anyway - it's just the software download which got my natural foil-hat tendencies on the go. > Think about it: If your box dies and Sky want to charge you a stupid > amount to fix it then you'd just cancel your account with them, > wouldn't you? That leaves them with no income from you. It's in > their interest to fix it and keep you happy, within reason. Which is why I was going to ignore it. BTDT - lightning strike killed an early box - they said it was an act of god, so not covered, I cancelled subs, they changed their mind. SignatureRob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabiolet Easily confused. |
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