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Timo Geusch - 20 Nov 2008 06:17 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm

So, 90mph+ on the motorway is now considered "anti-social". So I guess
doing 55mph[1] in the outside lane in a Trabant is considered "social"
then.

If they used the amount of time coming up with male bovine excrement
like this and used it to create a proper integrated transport policy
instead, they could do amazing things that would probably *not*
attempting to blackmail people into accepting road charging trials.

[1] One of these days I will get pulled over with *that* song playing.

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Cab - 20 Nov 2008 07:27 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
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> instead, they could do amazing things that would probably *not*
> attempting to blackmail people into accepting road charging trials.

So then, it means that the majority of the Autobahn using population in
Germany would be considered as anti-social?

The government may have a point Timo. :-)

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Timo Geusch - 20 Nov 2008 21:01 GMT
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
> >
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>
> The government may have a point Timo. :-)

<flashes headlights>
<flashes headlights again>

Move over, willya?

;)

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guig - 20 Nov 2008 07:46 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
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>
> [1] One of these days I will get pulled over with *that* song playing.

Wouldn't be "I can't drive at no 55" by Sammy Hagar or Ted Nugent
IIRC?? No idea if that's the correct title or artist but it was on the
radio when I was in the US years back and that line stuck with me.
Eddie - 20 Nov 2008 08:52 GMT
> Wouldn't be "I can't drive at no 55" by Sammy Hagar or Ted Nugent IIRC??
> No idea if that's the correct title or artist but it was on the radio
> when I was in the US years back and that line stuck with me.

A UST speaks: "I Can't Drive 55", by Sammy Hagar.

# Go on and write me up for 125
# Post my face, wanted dead or alive
# Take my license and all that jive
# I can't drive 55

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Timo Geusch - 20 Nov 2008 21:01 GMT
> > Wouldn't be "I can't drive at no 55" by Sammy Hagar or Ted Nugent
> > IIRC??  No idea if that's the correct title or artist but it was on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> # Take my license and all that jive
> # I can't drive 55

Indeed, that's the badger.

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JackH - 20 Nov 2008 09:07 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm

"It estimates that up to one in five motorists killed in road accidents may
have drugs in their system"

Aye, those Lemsip powders are 'bad sh.t', man.

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Cane - 20 Nov 2008 09:43 GMT
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
> "It estimates that up to one in five motorists killed in road
> accidents may have drugs in their system"
>
> Aye, those Lemsip powders are 'bad sh.t', man.

nah, it's benders full of poppers you need to look out for.

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JackH - 20 Nov 2008 09:57 GMT
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
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>
> nah, it's benders full of poppers you need to look out for.

I can't say I've noticed that many chaps driving along dressed in a pink PVC
gimp suit with a bottle of poppers stuffed up their nose.

Must be my poor observation skills...

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Nige - 20 Nov 2008 10:07 GMT
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>>
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> nah, it's benders full of poppers you need to look out for.

c.nt, i laughed out loud then & everyones looking at me ;)
Rudy Lacchin - 20 Nov 2008 20:42 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
> "It estimates that up to one in five motorists killed in road accidents
> may have drugs in their system"

That's not even a statistic.  "May have"?

<sigh>
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Timo Geusch - 20 Nov 2008 21:02 GMT
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
> "It estimates that up to one in five motorists killed in road
> accidents may have drugs in their system"
>
> Aye, those Lemsip powders are 'bad sh.t', man.

Anybody tell you you're not supposed to snort them?

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Hog - 20 Nov 2008 09:11 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
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> [1] One of these days I will get pulled over with *that* song playing.

Well people want a society where the few can dictate to everybody else
so tough f.cking luck.

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Anonymouslemming - 20 Nov 2008 09:22 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
> So, 90mph+ on the motorway is now considered "anti-social". So I guess
> doing 55mph[1] in the outside lane in a Trabant is considered "social"
> then.

That prick is my MP sadly.

I've had some lovely letters from him over the years, including the
one around the time of the Iraq war where he explained it is 'my job
to vote my conscience'

He's big on doing people for speeding, but he still refuses to admit
that the quality of road surfaces in his own constituency have
contributed to a couple of accidents and maintains that if people
weren't going so fast then losing their suspension wouldn't have had
such dire consequences.

Granted, slowing down to 10mph just before you hit the uncovered
manhole in the unlit road at 23:00 would have reduced damage, but that
still doesn't mean that the surface of the road was not a contributing
factor.

Fortunately I know the roads well enough that I've not fallen into any
of these trouble spots yet, but I hate this mindset that speed is
always at fault.

--
Wayne
CT - 20 Nov 2008 09:32 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
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> instead, they could do amazing things that would probably not
> attempting to blackmail people into accepting road charging trials.

And on R5 this morning, the "pro" camp was headed up by an interview
with the bloke who was injured in the accident caused by the Plymouth
Argyle player, that killed his two sons (the bloke's, not the player's).

Nice and representative then, notwithstanding the fact that the driver
in that crash was over twice the DD limit and had had only two hours
sleep.

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JackH - 20 Nov 2008 09:51 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
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> in that crash was over twice the DD limit and had had only two hours
> sleep.

There is a village on an A road on the outskirts of Canterbury that appears,
going by the regular coverage in the local rag, to have a hardcore cluster
of pitchfork totting yokels who claim their lives are being made hell by
'speeding drivers'.

"How long til someone else is killed?"

To my knowledge, the only people to have died as the result of an RTA in the
place concerned were two scrotes on a, IIRC, nicked crosser which had had a
bigger lump fitted, who overcooked it on a bend and piled it into a wooded
area.

I might be wrong, but I seem to remember at least one of them wasn't wearing
a helmet, either.

Recently, another spirited young chap lost control of his car and smashed it
through the wall of house on a bend at the start of the village, which led
to another quality rant about speeding motorists from what appears to the
main possessor of the stench of stale wee in the group concerned, whinging
for more traffic calming measures (which are now being installed), and
reiterating the need for a bypass.

Actually, I'm not against the idea of the place getting a bypass, but
anyway...

The thing is, said young spirited chap was spirited in more than one way -
he was found to be well over the DD limit?

Speed is all too often blamed in itself as the source of all evil and
accidents, but it's not... *inappropriate* speed, is a factor in *some*
accidents, not all of them like you'd think it was if you swallowed all the
bile offered up by fuckwits like the ones campaigning above, and no amount
of 'traffic calming measures' or lowering of the speed limit, is going to
stop the inherently stupid from ending up smeared across the road / a tree /
the side of a house.

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platypus - 20 Nov 2008 09:59 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
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>
> [1] One of these days I will get pulled over with *that* song playing.

Horst Wessel?
Timo Geusch - 20 Nov 2008 21:03 GMT
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
> >
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>
> Horst Wessel?

Na, I've got enough primates in the family tree who thought happy brown
thoughts. Really not my scene.

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Lozzo - 20 Nov 2008 21:55 GMT
> I've got enough primates in the family tree who thought happy
> brown thoughts.

Being fair though, there's hardly a household in modern Germany who
can't make that claim.

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Pip Luscher - 20 Nov 2008 21:28 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
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>Horst Wessel?

Nuclear wessel?

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Rope - 20 Nov 2008 11:41 GMT
Timo Geusch spoke:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm

< sits back and waits for the first person to click on that
video and refers to their demographic >

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Charlie - 20 Nov 2008 11:54 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
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> instead, they could do amazing things that would probably *not*
> attempting to blackmail people into accepting road charging trials.

YOYOY don't governments use a carrot *and* stick approach, instead of using
the stick alone?  It would be easier to get general acceptance of, say,
20mph in towns if there was a balancing easing up on motorway and
dual-carriageway limits.  Say, 100 on motorways and 80 on d/c, unless local
conditions indicated something lower.  The 70 limit was introduced in the
days of drum-brakes and cart-spring suspension.

Similarly, they could crank up the tariff to 6 penalty points in respect of
blatant speeding (20mph over), as porposed in today's news, but balance that
by reducing the tariff for 2-3mph over to a fine and no points. They could
keep the minimum one year ban for drink-driving, but have a narrow ~2%
tolerance band for marginal failures, with a nominal one-month slapped-wrist
ban with a hefty fine.
DozynSleepy - 20 Nov 2008 12:18 GMT
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> YOYOY don't governments use a carrot *and* stick approach, instead of using
> the stick alone?  It would be easier to get general acceptance of, say,
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> tolerance band for marginal failures, with a nominal one-month slapped-wrist
> ban with a hefty fine.

Don't know what they're on about, you will get extra points and a fine
if you are a bit too enthusiastic on the open road as of now and four
years ago. <fx: looks at driving license /fx>

Having been on the M25 just recently I'm pretty sure that over 80% of
cars were cruising in the 80 to 90 mph zone. I'm pretty sure not a
single one of them would say it was blatant speeding for the odd vehicle
to be going slightly faster than the average.

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Grimly Curmudgeon - 20 Nov 2008 16:39 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> saying something like:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7738919.stm
>
>So, 90mph+ on the motorway is now considered "anti-social". So I guess
>doing 55mph[1] in the outside lane in a Trabant is considered "social"
>then.

The usual bollocks from Brake, of course. What I'm surprised to see is
some twat from the BMA chiming in. I thought they'd welcome
drink-driving as it leads to an increase in organ availability.

Fecking SafetyNazis.
Oops, is that ok, LN?
 
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