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Motorcycle Forum / General / Yamaha / July 2004Made my VSTAR Louder
I've been tired of sneaking up on cats and little old ladies on my 650 for some time. Yesterday I ran into three VSTAR 1100 riders and they showed me a trick. You drill three or four half inch holes just inside the back end of the pipe. There's a serious slant so ya gotta drill a pilot hole first. There's still sufficient back pressure to, according to them, eliminate the necessity to rejet. I did it and the bike is a lot louder. Not as loud as straights, which suits me fine. But....I LIKE IT!!! Just thought I'd pass the trick on. cheers bob > I've been tired of sneaking up on cats and little old ladies on my 650 > for some [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > bob I did the same thing to my 650 Classic. It definitely adds some bark, and the price is right!  SignatureUsing Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ >From: Jammer jam@jam.com >> You drill three or four half inch holes just inside the back end of the >> pipe. >I did the same thing to my 650 Classic. It definitely adds some bark, and >the price is right! GRIN. You got that right! I'd've done this sooner if I'd known the trick. I figured there might be people here that didn't know it and were reluctant to pop 2 or 4 hundred for different mufflers. cheers bob Why louder? Do you crave attention? -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. >Why louder? Do you crave attention? Sure. Why not? cheers bob >>Why louder? Do you crave attention? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >bob sure, make more of the public hate motorcycles and vote more repressive laws. and thanks. It's also a safety issue. If they can't see you coming, hopefully they will hear you!! Another trick is to get a $10 "hole saw" I believe they're called and drill directly into the back of the exaust (saw blade must be slightly larger than the hole that is there) but since it's conical shaped it will self-center. You can then pull out the baffle for much better sound. Stock bikes have really restrictive intake and exhaust. For my 1100 Classic I went with the $200 Max Air Kit (www.maxairengineering.com) and $400 2 into 1 Roadhouse pipes (www.roadhousebrand.com)... Hooooooweeeeee, I must have gained 15HP. I no longer feel the need for a 6th gear on the freeway! I highly recommend these mods. > >>Why louder? Do you crave attention? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > repressive laws. > and thanks. >It's also a safety issue. If they can't see you coming, hopefully >they will hear you!! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >checked the stats...90% of the time, car owners say they didn't see the rider. it's especially true coming up behind a car. Did you take the pipes off? How do you drill into the bottom of upper pipe? Or.....do you just drill into the last 6 inches at the end of each pipe? >Did you take the pipes off? No How do you drill into the bottom of upper pipe? >Or.....do you just drill into the last 6 inches at the end of each pipe? No. Look INSIDE the back of the pipes. You'll see a cone shaped opening with the small opening forward. You drill holes in the cone. The cone IS the baffle. cheers bob Rob how many holes and how large? Michel -- " we get old too soon and smart too late" robobt@aol.com (Bob Thomas) wrote > > > >Did you take the pipes off? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > bob the cone isnt the baffle.. there is a plate about an inch behind the cone.. THAT is the baffle.. try about 4 holes.. 1/2 inch each.. >he cone isnt the baffle.. there is a plate about an inch behind the >cone.. THAT is the baffle.. try about 4 holes.. 1/2 inch each.. That works. Kinda depends on how loud ya want it. cheers bob try www.650ccnd.com performance mods page.. lots of instructions there >Rob > >how many holes and how large? > >Michel One of the guys I talked to had drilled half inch holes, three of 'em. I had nothing larger than three eighths, so I drilled four holes and wobbled the drill around to make 'em a bit bigger. Somebody mentioned using a hole saw and drilling out the whole thing. There are, btw, two cones, small ends connected. Ya need to drill thru both. They're only an inch or so apart so it's no problem. Sounds nice. cheers bob Keep on Yamahaulin' Why not remove the last baffle all together? Anyone has done this here? I must say I love my VStar but I miss the sound of straight pipes. I used to ride a Shadow when I lived in the Philippines, adn there they have no noise restriction, so I put on cobra straight pipes and I just loved that sound. In comparaison, the standard pipes on the VStar make it sound like an electric shaver :-S Michel -- " we get old too soon and smart too late" robobt@aol.com (Bob Thomas) wrote > One of the guys I talked to had drilled half inch holes, three of 'em. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Keep on Yamahaulin' >Why not remove the last baffle all together? Anyone has done this >here? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Michel So I guess you don't give a crap about your neighbours, or anybody else for that matter? -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Bruno, First my nearest neighbour lives about 1 mile from me, second I am not considering to put straight pipes on my bike, I just want a better, deeper, and a bit louder sound. Michel -- " we get old too soon and smart too late" Bruno <insert@address.here> wrote > So I guess you don't give a crap about your neighbours, or anybody > else for that matter? >Bruno, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Michel Sorry. But I really, really, really hate loud bikes. Or cars for that matter. I believe there are laws that govern the decibel levels, and I strongly believe that those laws should be strictly enforced. The cops should forget about coat hangers and invest in some decibel meters. Up here in Quebec, the poor HD owners complain that the cops are harassing them. Maybe they should put the baffles back in! -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. >> Bruno, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Up here in Quebec, the poor HD owners complain that the cops are > harassing them. Maybe they should put the baffles back in! Oh wel...Quebec...nothing is normal in quebec.. >Bruno, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Michel A *bit* louder is one thing. <rant> I really, really, really hate loud bikes. And loud cars for that matter. I abhor inconsiderate people. Up here in Quebec, the poor HD owners complain that the cops are harassing them. Maybe they should put the baffles back in!! Why is it that the first thing these people do when they buy a brand new HD is remove the baffles?!? The new HD's have a a very nice sound as is! I believe that there are laws that govern the level of decibels that motor vehicules produce and I strongly believe that those laws should be enforced. The cops should forget about coat hangers and invest in some decibel meters. </rant> -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Bruno where abouts are you in Quebec? I live in the Eastern Townships. Regarding the noise issue, the cops around here are very strict about it, and I respect that. But to me a bike doesn't feel like a bike unless it has a bit of a roar to it. I don't mean like a sonic boom, just a nice roar. The standard pipes on the VStar 1100 just dont' cut it for me. The bike sounds like a lawn mower. I would like a deep throaty sound that's all. And I want to stay within the legal noise limits. I don't want and can't afford paying the $200 tickets ;-) Cheers Michel -- " we get old too soon and smart too late" Bruno <insert@address.here> wrote > A *bit* louder is one thing. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > some decibel meters. > </rant> >Bruno where abouts are you in Quebec? I live in the Eastern Townships. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Michel Je suis à Hull. And you're off the hook, then! ;-) -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Cool. Let me know if you ever come out of mosquito land to visit the townships :-) The beer's on me Michel -- " we get old too soon and smart too late" Bruno <insert@address.here> wrote > Je suis à Hull. > And you're off the hook, then! ;-) you can remove the last baffle plate and inner pipe for more noise... but drilling the plate doent require a rejet.. simpler mod for those who are not wanting to open the carbs so it sounds like a LOUD sewing machine now? > I've been tired of sneaking up on cats and little old ladies on my 650 for some > time. Yesterday I ran into three VSTAR 1100 riders and they showed me a trick. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > bob >so it sounds like a LOUD sewing machine now? Did you have a point, or are you merely trying to perfect your rudeness? ?? bob >>so it sounds like a LOUD sewing machine now? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >bob Now that he mentioned it, all that valve clatter does sound like a sewing machine. Sow what if it does. -- Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. dont shoot the messenger bobby old boy, i call em like i see em. rode a vstar for 3 years, hated every mile. underpowered sewing machine engine was lacking in many many ways > >so it sounds like a LOUD sewing machine now? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > bob Go to www.650ccnd.com. There is info on gutting the stock pipes and changing the jets and modifying the air box to make it have a ram air effect (RAK). The mods will make it a little louder and more deeper for a much better sound. > I've been tired of sneaking up on cats and little old ladies on my 650 for some > time. Yesterday I ran into three VSTAR 1100 riders and they showed me a trick. 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