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Trev - 29 Oct 2004 23:02 GMT
I'm about to put up my Vstar 1100 Custom for storage over the winter.  I'm
keeping it in a moderately heated garage (temp approx 5-10 degrees celcius
throughout winter months).

What proceedure should I really do.......I've heard mixed stories about
putting oil down on pistons, etc.  Can I just fill up the tank, put in some
fuel stabilizer, and put the battery on trickle charge?
Bruno - 29 Oct 2004 23:20 GMT
>I'm about to put up my Vstar 1100 Custom for storage over the winter.  I'm
>keeping it in a moderately heated garage (temp approx 5-10 degrees celcius
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>putting oil down on pistons, etc.  Can I just fill up the tank, put in some
>fuel stabilizer, and put the battery on trickle charge?

You can do as much or as little as you want, really. And you are right
that there is a lot of contradictory opinions out there. So you can
weight all this and decide: Do as little as possible, or go all out.

What *I* did?

1-Go to gas station. Put in gas stabiliser and fill to the rim. Drive
around for 10 minutes to get stabiliser into the float bowls. Feel
depressed, knowing this is the last ride this year.

2-Replace oil with cheap stuff. Circulate new oil for a minute or two.
Apparently, old oil has acids that will eat away at... the bottom of
the oil pan? I never used to do that, but it's a new bike, it's only
five bucks and makes me feel good. In the spring, I am driving
straight to the shop for an oil change and tune up.

3-Fog engine. This consists of removing the air filter and running the
engine while trying to get the *$&$^^$ engine to suck in and choke on
the *$^&#^$ fogging oil. Feel satisfied that I saw a little puff of
smoke come out the back, and quickly shut engine off.

4-Remove battery and connect to battery tender in the basement.

5-Remove saddle bags, seats and backrests and store in basement.

6-Put bike on lift.

7-Wipe large quantities of $#*&$$ fogging oil off the side of the bike
as it drips back out of the air intake.

8-Put bed sheet on the bike.

9-Wash and wax. Ah, screw it. It's getting dark, I'm tired, and I can
do that in the spring.

BTW, my bike is stored in a non-heated garage. If it was a semi-heated
garage like your, I would probably just run the bike for 5 minutes
every week or two.
e - 30 Oct 2004 04:36 GMT
>I'm about to put up my Vstar 1100 Custom for storage over the winter.  I'm
>keeping it in a moderately heated garage (temp approx 5-10 degrees celcius
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>putting oil down on pistons, etc.  Can I just fill up the tank, put in some
>fuel stabilizer, and put the battery on trickle charge?

the stabilizer and trickle should do. try to start once a
month.
make sure you change the oil, too.
Trev - 30 Oct 2004 15:48 GMT
Change the oil before I store or after I take it out in the spring?  If I am
going to start once a month is there a need to change the oil in the fall?

>>I'm about to put up my Vstar 1100 Custom for storage over the winter.  I'm
>>keeping it in a moderately heated garage (temp approx 5-10 degrees celcius
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> month.
> make sure you change the oil, too.
Trev - 30 Oct 2004 16:18 GMT
What should I get for a trickle charger for my battery...........would a
1.5amp trickle charge be too much?
> Change the oil before I store or after I take it out in the spring?  If I
> am going to start once a month is there a need to change the oil in the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> month.
>> make sure you change the oil, too.
Bruno - 01 Nov 2004 23:15 GMT
>What should I get for a trickle charger for my battery...........would a
>1.5amp trickle charge be too much?

Canadian Tire has one for $44.95. It says "Automatic Battery
Charger/Maintainer" on it. These things monitor your battery and only
charge when necessary.

A 1.5amp constant charge can cook a battery. Make sure you get the
right thing.
e - 02 Nov 2004 18:24 GMT
>>What should I get for a trickle charger for my battery...........would a
>>1.5amp trickle charge be too much?
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>A 1.5amp constant charge can cook a battery. Make sure you get the
>right thing.

jc whitney has tenders for 15 bucks. they can not over
charge. some people use a half amp ps, but it has no auto
shut off.
Trev - 04 Nov 2004 01:08 GMT
Wouldn't happen to have a link to that exact changer do you........I can't
manage to find it.

>>What should I get for a trickle charger for my battery...........would a
>>1.5amp trickle charge be too much?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> A 1.5amp constant charge can cook a battery. Make sure you get the
> right thing.
e - 30 Oct 2004 18:47 GMT
>Change the oil before I store or after I take it out in the spring?  If I am
>going to start once a month is there a need to change the oil in the fall?

change before you store it and again in the spring. cheap
insurance. dirty oil eats motors.
Trev - 31 Oct 2004 03:07 GMT
Does everyone here in this group do that? (change oil when storing and again
when taking it out in spring).  I've never done this with any other peice of
machinery.........but then again........none of them cost as much as my bike
:)

>>Change the oil before I store or after I take it out in the spring?  If I
>>am
>>going to start once a month is there a need to change the oil in the fall?
>>
> change before you store it and again in the spring. cheap
> insurance. dirty oil eats motors.
Tostada - 31 Oct 2004 05:35 GMT
> Does everyone here in this group do that? (change oil when storing and again
> when taking it out in spring).  I've never done this with any other peice of
> machinery.........but then again........none of them cost as much as my bike
> :)

I've read that some people put fresh oil in in the fall, and then change
it again in the spring, but I've never done that. Haven't had engine
problems related to internal corrosion in thirty years of storing cars,
bikes, lawnmowers, snowblowers, etc. I think if you warm up the engine
completely before you dump the oil in the fall, you probably drive out
any liquid water that may have accumulated.

For long-term storage, I do replace the oil before putting an engine
back into commission, e.g., a bike that was stored for several years.
e - 31 Oct 2004 17:40 GMT
>Does everyone here in this group do that? (change oil when storing and again
>when taking it out in spring).  I've never done this with any other peice of
>machinery.........but then again........none of them cost as much as my bike
>:)
>
>"e" <someone@some.domain> wrote in message
don't top post, it breaks up the logical flow of
conversation.
i've done that on any gas burner going into storage.
old military mech taught me and it's saved me major money.
hell, just getting the carbs cleaned on a modern bike is a
couple hundred bucks, and letting oil acids eat your motor
is dumb. maybe you can skate a few years, but the effect is
cumlative. you have 5 bucks for oil and a half hour to save
a motor.
 
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