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RR - 12 Sep 2006 19:02 GMT
howdy.

It appears my dealer/mechanic and insurance company may declare my bmw K1100
as totalled or too expensive to repair following an accident 4 weeks ago.

My dealer has a used Yamaha 1997 Royal Star that looks quite nice, with
30,000 miles on it. I want a highway cruiser as I also have a 2001 Triumph
Tbird for short day trips.

I had a Yamaha 1979 XS1100 once upon a time, which was a very well built
machine.

So what do you think about the reliability, handling, and comfort of the
Royal Star. btw, I'm 5'9" with 30" inseam. A bike thats comfortable for
taking a lady out 2-up is a plus.

thx
Randy / Georgia
walt peifer - 13 Sep 2006 14:28 GMT
> howdy.
>
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> thx
> Randy / Georgia

I have a 96 star. I'm 6'0" and 270 LBS my wife is kinda hefty too. the
passenger pad is ok for short trips.If you ride any distance invest in an
after market seat, or do what I did and build one yourself and have it
upholstered. performance is good. at 5'9" you should be pretty close to flat
foot when sitting still. Bike feels big but is very nimble ( I've scrapped
the running boards a few times) My biggest complaint on the 96 is the rev
limiter. I found that under hard accel it hit the limit in first gear
(41mph) just a bit to quick, time wise. After market brain box took care of
that for me now first limits out at about 47 mph which is enough time for my
size 12's to bang the shifter. Very stable at speed, I drive every day to
and from work part of the trip is on the interstate about 7 miles I ride
with traffic at 85 mph no problem. around town the bike is agile enough and
very balanced so stop and go is no problem. A friend of mine has one also,
his big complaint is the fuel economy around town 35 mpg is about tops (hey
its a big 4 cyl motor). Keep the ignition (key switch) lubed up it can get
sticky. Bike is easy to clean and keep clean, although after 10 years of hot
Florida sun some of the clear coat on the aluminum controls is starting to
flake. The chrome is still like new, I ride in the rain of the sun sometimes
both on the same trip) I average around 130 miles a week commuting, and
another 100 or so every weekend riding with the wife (she has her own bike
now) The only bike I ever liked better was an old 86 Venture (same motor)
but it died at around 100,000 miles. I've owned 12 Yamahas since I was 16
and would rate this one number 2 overall.
Gilby - 13 Sep 2006 16:02 GMT
>I have a 96 star.
>My biggest complaint on the 96 is the rev
>limiter. I found that under hard accel it hit the limit in first gear
>(41mph) just a bit to quick, time wise. After market brain box took care of
>that for me now first limits out at about 47 mph which is enough time for my
>size 12's to bang the shifter.

What else are you doing that you can't find time to shift into second
before hitting the rev limiter, which I assume is well above redline?
I've never heard of that problem before, but it sounds interesting.

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walt peifer - 13 Sep 2006 18:17 GMT
>>I have a 96 star.
>>My biggest complaint on the 96 is the rev
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> before hitting the rev limiter, which I assume is well above redline?
> I've never heard of that problem before, but it sounds interesting.

there is no redline per say, as there is no tach on the royal star. the
stock limiter on the 96 model is set at 6100 rpm. the problem is one of time
not engine speed. Grabbing a handful of throttle on an expressway on-ramp
and the time to 41 mph is very short, as well as the speed to 60 mph hitting
third, but this was much more manageable.As the bike has floor boards
instead of pegs you don't ride with your toe holding pressure against the
shifter, so the shift is a true lift of the front of the foot instead of the
pivot motion used on pegged bikes. Also the mystical "feel" of the bike that
we all experience one way or another. It just felt as if I was being forced
into shifting too soon, in a performance situation, the bike seemed to want
to rev more and have the power to do so but couldn't because of the limiter.
as I said the aftermarket brain raised that limit ( I chose to set it at
6500 rpm) made all the difference in "feel" and rideability to me. The
engine on the Royal star is basically a detuned V-max motor and as we know
the red-line on this motor is much higher than 6500 rpm. The brain has a set
of dip switches that allow the rev limiter to be set at  6 different levels.
However the recommendation in to set it no higher the 7000 rpm unless
stronger valve springs are installed on the royal star models.
Going back through some reviews of the bike in motorcycle mags (some are on
the internet) other also have experienced this problem
http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/reviews/roystar9_96.htm
RR - 14 Sep 2006 03:31 GMT
Walt,

Thanks for the review. Maybe this is the bike I want for hwy trips and when
a fairing is needed.

I'll let you know what I decide.

Randy

>>>I have a 96 star.
>>>My biggest complaint on the 96 is the rev
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> on the internet) other also have experienced this problem
> http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/reviews/roystar9_96.htm
 
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