>>Hi, I want to replace my standard system with jardine pipes, has anyone
>>had to re-jet the carbs after fitting such pipes. I'm getting told
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> In the mean time i'v driven 35000 km's with this configuration with no
> problems.
I've been told you need to. By more than one place. If you change the
back pressure/exhaust flow... or the intake flow, you affect the
dynamics of the carburation. Hence rejetting is necessary.
I have my pipes sitting in box here, and getting a hypercharger next
payday, which comes with a jet kit. Getting it all done at once.
Dave
>>Hi, I want to replace my standard system with jardine pipes, has anyone
>>had to re-jet the carbs after fitting such pipes. I'm getting told
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> Even with the original muffler it's running bad, loud bang's after turning
> back the throttle.
Loud bangs (backfire) on trailing throttle probably means that your
pilot circuit is running too rich. OTOH if you are getting a series of
small putt-putt type backfires on trailing throttle accompanied by some
minor surging (stumble) at slow cruising speeds you're running too lean.
Typically, going to a K&N filter and less restrictive exhaust will
encourage a lean condition, but one that is more pronounced at increased
throttle. The fact that you are running fine except at closed throttle
suggests that those are not the problem.
You (or someone else) may have mis-adjusted the pilot needle screws or
the pilot circuit may be partially blocked. Usually a blockage in the
pilot circuit results in a "too lean" condition, not too rich. BTW, due
to the small size of the passages, and the sensitivity to blockage, the
pilot circuit is one of the first areas in the carb to exhibit problems
when gummed up due to old gas.
The best way to adjust the pilot screws (after a thorough carb cleaning)
is using an exhaust gas analyzer (at idle). If you can't find someone
who has one, or want to fix this at home on your own, you can use a
Gunson Colortune. Google it. I've used one of those for adjusting 4
cylinder carburetted engine quite successfully.
> In the mean time i'v driven 35000 km's with this configuration with no
> problems.
Ummmm... you just said you are getting backfiring. Don't you consider
that a problem? Or are you just as happy to emulate the big American V
twins, many of which seem to suffer this same problem.

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VStarRick - 19 Jan 2007 12:22 GMT
I put Barron's Nasty Boy Slashers on mine and didn't rejet.
seems to run fine, plugs are a little fouled after about 4K miles, so I
change 'em in the spring.
The change in pipes did cause it to backfire, I bypassed the AIS and it
stopped.
> >>Hi, I want to replace my standard system with jardine pipes, has anyone
> >>had to re-jet the carbs after fitting such pipes. I'm getting told
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> that a problem? Or are you just as happy to emulate the big American V
> twins, many of which seem to suffer this same problem.
Dragstar - 19 Jan 2007 13:51 GMT
>> In the mean time i'v driven 35000 km's with this configuration with no
>> problems.
>
> Ummmm... you just said you are getting backfiring. Don't you consider
> that a problem? Or are you just as happy to emulate the big American V
> twins, many of which seem to suffer this same problem.
Backfire is when the original pipes are mounted, not with the B&M exhaust.
The K&N filter is mounted around 30.000 km's.
Maybe i will do a dyno-jet run.

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GaZ - 19 Jan 2007 19:45 GMT
>>>Hi, I want to replace my standard system with jardine pipes, has anyone
>>>had to re-jet the carbs after fitting such pipes. I'm getting told
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> that a problem? Or are you just as happy to emulate the big American V
> twins, many of which seem to suffer this same problem.
'Banging in the pipes' can also be caused by drawing air in at either the
joint to the head or the pipe to muffler joint.
Un burned mixture ( which does not necessarily mean you are running too
rich ) is ignited in the pipe when air is mixed with the hot discharge.