> I appreciate this is a very general question and depends on mode of
> use but roughly how long would a clutch on an XJ600 be expected to
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> No obvious slipping but I can change without the clutch OK, selection
> whilst stationary difficult.
Not sure what kind of clutch control is on that model, but clutch cables can
stretch and slave cylinders can leak. If you're having difficulty shifting
while not moving, it's a LOT more likely that your clutch isn't disengaging,
and thus needs adjusted (or maintained).
When a clutch is worn out, the usual symptom is that it quits holding in the
higher gears. That is, you can rev the engine higher without the bike's
going any faster. You'll notice it first in your highst gear, then the next
one down, and when it gets really bad, you'll notice it slipping even in
first gear.
Geoff Lane - 11 Mar 2007 19:36 GMT
>> I appreciate this is a very general question and depends on mode of
>> use but roughly how long would a clutch on an XJ600 be expected to
>> last.
> When a clutch is worn out, the usual symptom is that it quits holding in the
> higher gears. That is, you can rev the engine higher without the bike's
> going any faster. You'll notice it first in your highst gear, then the next
> one down, and when it gets really bad, you'll notice it slipping even in
> first gear.
Which is how I recall it in a car.
I doubt it is the cable, I still have adjustment on it and the lever on
the clutch casing moves OK.
There appears to be a wee bit of drag, initially with the clutch lever
pulled fully in the back wheel will stop spinning but when I let the
lever out the take up is very sudden.
I think I will have to dismantle and view the components, never done a
bike before but have done a few cars so will figure it somehow.
Geoff Lane
someone@some.domain - 11 Mar 2007 22:37 GMT
>>> I appreciate this is a very general question and depends on mode of
>>> use but roughly how long would a clutch on an XJ600 be expected to
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>
>Geoff Lane
really sounds like adjustment. check your manual.
Geoff Lane - 13 Mar 2007 19:54 GMT
>> There appears to be a wee bit of drag, initially with the clutch lever
>> pulled fully in the back wheel will stop spinning but when I let the
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>>
> really sounds like adjustment. check your manual.
Dismantled the cable, lubed it well and refitted, no better.
The back wheel spins reasonably well in neutral but when I put it on the
stand in gear and use the clutch the take up is very snatchy.
Thanks for advice, I think it's going to be a dismantle and examine job.
Geoff Lane
someone@some.domain - 13 Mar 2007 22:29 GMT
>>> There appears to be a wee bit of drag, initially with the clutch lever
>>> pulled fully in the back wheel will stop spinning but when I let the
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>Geoff Lane
did you adjust it on the lever? moving the little wheel
makes the cable longer or shorter. that is the primary and
most important adjustment and the one that goes out most.
it's often that simple.
Geoff Lane - 14 Mar 2007 22:14 GMT
>> Thanks for advice, I think it's going to be a dismantle and examine job.
>>
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> most important adjustment and the one that goes out most.
> it's often that simple.
Yes, still no luck.
Geoff Lane
someone@some.domain - 15 Mar 2007 03:35 GMT
>>> Thanks for advice, I think it's going to be a dismantle and examine job.
>>>
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>
>Geoff Lane
perhaps it's time to look at the plates.
EffJay R. Yamaha - 15 Mar 2007 12:00 GMT
>>> did you adjust it on the lever? moving the little wheel
>>> makes the cable longer or shorter. that is the primary and
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> perhaps it's time to look at the plates.
Or maybe time to check the oil can labels, and see if it has "friction
modifiers" in it?
Geoff Lane - 16 Mar 2007 23:52 GMT
>>>> did you adjust it on the lever? moving the little wheel
>>>> makes the cable longer or shorter. that is the primary and
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> Or maybe time to check the oil can labels, and see if it has "friction
> modifiers" in it?
No, I use Rock oil which is proper bike oil and have been using it since
the bike was new.
I'll investigate the plates this weekend.
Geoff Lane
someone@some.domain - 17 Mar 2007 03:31 GMT
>>>>> did you adjust it on the lever? moving the little wheel
>>>>> makes the cable longer or shorter. that is the primary and
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>Geoff Lane
let us know, it's curious.
Geoff Lane - 17 Mar 2007 20:16 GMT
>> I'll investigate the plates this weekend.
>>
>> Geoff Lane
> let us know, it's curious.
Will do.
Geoff Lane
Geoff Lane - 07 Apr 2007 00:01 GMT
>>>> perhaps it's time to look at the plates.
>> I'll investigate the plates this weekend.
> let us know, it's curious.
It was a totally collapsed thrust bearing.
The needle bearings had all come adrift and the bearing housing had
collapsed.
Lot of moisture gunge inside the clutch housing but oil OK and pump
working so lubrication seemed OK.
All swarf thoroughly cleaned out and bearing replaced and now going OK.
Geoff Lane
someone@some.domain - 07 Apr 2007 01:12 GMT
>>>>> perhaps it's time to look at the plates.
>
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>Geoff Lane
awright. glad it was relatively minor.
> I appreciate this is a very general question and depends on mode of use
> but roughly how long would a clutch on an XJ600 be expected to last.
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> Geoff Lane
> London UK
Hit the forums over here, great bunch, very helpful
http://www.xjbikes.com/
Geoff Lane - 11 Mar 2007 19:39 GMT
>> I appreciate this is a very general question and depends on mode of
>> use but roughly how long would a clutch on an XJ600 be expected to last.
>
> Hit the forums over here, great bunch, very helpful
>
> http://www.xjbikes.com/
Thanks, I'll give it a view.
Geoff Lane