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Want more power from my XT 550

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spokexx@gmail.com - 04 Jun 2007 01:26 GMT
Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
makes 38hp at 8.5:1 compression. So i was thinking of bumping up the
compression and changing the cams. Any thoughts on this or other
ideas?? Where can i get parts?

much appreciation, drew
M D - 04 Jun 2007 15:21 GMT
Drew,
   Have you replaced the stock muffler? I have been looking for 1 that will
work on our XT, but no luck.
Mike

> Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
> power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
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> much appreciation, drew
spokexx@gmail.com - 05 Jun 2007 18:52 GMT
well heres the thing Mike. Id like to keep the bike looking as stock
as possible. My baffle is removed from the muffler, maybe that adds
some power, but all the work id like to do,   id like to do on the
inside. Such as a higher compression piston and  different camshaft.
Id rather keep the stock carbs also.

peace, drew
sdz;flkzxc.nm,v - 05 Jun 2007 23:30 GMT
> Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
> power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
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> much appreciation, drew

Waste of time
Use it as is or buy something newer
someone@some.domain.invalid - 06 Jun 2007 01:19 GMT
>> Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
>> power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
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>Waste of time
>Use it as is or buy something newer

ignore that, go here. lots of hop-ups for those bikes.

http://thumperpage.com/
Albrecht - 06 Jun 2007 02:07 GMT
>Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
>power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
>makes 38hp at 8.5:1 compression. So i was thinking of bumping up the
>compression and changing the cams. Any thoughts on this or other
>ideas?? Where can i get parts?

Blindly bumping up the compression without knowing what you are doing can
result in an engine that
pulls like a tractor at low speed but won't rev up to redline. The engine
with too much compression actually has LESS horsepower than the stock engine.

Don't ask how i know that.

Experienced tuners increase the compression ratio only enough to work with
the cam timing and give the hot rodded engine enough power to get the
motorbike moving without slipping the clutch and using a bazillion RPM.

The engine only has one camshaft.

In order to get more horsepower out of an engine you need to make it turn
faster.

It's very possible to get 55 horsepower out of a 550 cc engine, if it can
stand the extra RPM. You'd have to turn the engine 30% faster, assuming you
didn't install a big bore kit to give it more cc's.

But that would make the engine peaky and harder to ride, you'd have to keep
it "on the boil" to get the power you want out of it.

You can find out if you would enjoy riding a motorcycle with such a peaky
engine by degreeing the camshaft to close the intake valve 3 or 4 crankshaft
degrees later.

Google for information about degreeing cams using the "lobe center" method.
If you're going to eventually install a re-ground cam, or an aftermarket
billet cam, you're going to have to learn to degree cams sooner or later.

http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id=653868

Item #3 is one of a pair of bolts that fastens the camshaft sprocket to the
camshaft.

In degreeing a camshaft, the sprocket is removed and the holes are filed oval.
Then the camshaft and sprocket are reinstalled with the bolts almost tight.
The camshaft is repositioned so it closes the intake valve later and the
bolts are installed with Loctite to keep the sprocket from shifting.

The exhaust valve will open later by the same number of degrees and the
exhaust system will be able to extract a little more horsepower from the
acoustic effects in the hot exhaust system.
someone@some.domain.invalid - 06 Jun 2007 05:08 GMT
>>Howdy, i have an 83 XT 550 and love it but id like to squeeze more
>>power out of it. According to bikez.com (maybe not that reliable) it
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>exhaust system will be able to extract a little more horsepower from the
>acoustic effects in the hot exhaust system.

like the sr's, all the xt's get a real boost just by making
them breathe and exhale better, the exhausts are real
strangle points and rob at least 5hp. a better carb like a
38 or 40mm flat slide mikuni will gibe you more.
there are better cams and pistons galore. go to the thumper
page and yell at big ed. he'll tell you the literal truth
about what to change.
i have 3 sr's. 1 stocker, 29hp, one with a supertrapp and
nect size up main jet, 35hp. the last is a hot rod, hot cam,
10 to 1 piston, 40mm mikuni and the bsr exhaust and big
header, 46hp.
the main thing on the xt is the tranny. it's a dirt bike so
it won't ever be a drag racer. but for more power and
torque, a compression boost with a cam will help.
those motors have been around since 76 and are thoroughly
understood.
 
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