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Motorcycle Forum / General / Yamaha / June 2007PIAA Extreme White Plus alternatives?
When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. I don't remember, but it may have been a PIAA. The stock bulb in my V Star is okay (i.e. nothing special), but I still would like to increase my visibility. So in one catalog I found PIAA Extreme White Plus halogen H4s, which look like they would be great, but they're $47 per bulb. Despite basically believing in "you get what you pay for," this has given me a bit of sticker shock. 1) Are these great bulbs and worth the $$? 2) Does anybody have any good alternate suggestions based on experience? Thanks, DTM '06 V Star 1100 Classic > When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock > bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > '06 V Star 1100 Classic That price seems about right, but Iv'e been told that the 'blue' lights are better for the over 30 crowd.....something to do with how the eyes work. A mate was the same as you, shocked by the price, but he reckons it's heaps better for his night riding (read...swerving all over backroads....) > > When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock > > bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > it's heaps better for his night riding (read...swerving all over > backroads....) They are not. Blue lights are actually worse for the eyes. Bulbs that have blue tints to them have the filaments overdriven to produce more light, because the blue tint removes so much of the light from the bulb that if it wasn't overdriven it would fail the minimum requirements for light output. Of course, the filaments fail a lot quicker. The reason the blue bulbs sell is the HID lights have a blue tint and people that buy the blue bulbs want to pretend that they have the HID lights. In short, they are wannabes. Ted >> When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock >> bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > it's heaps better for his night riding (read...swerving all over > backroads....) http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/blue.html Give 'em a pass. for half the price you can get a set of Philips Vision +50%. As good or better, cost less, last longer. http://www.murphskits.com/light.htm > When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock > bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > '06 V Star 1100 Classic > When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock > bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > '06 V Star 1100 Classic See denniskirk.com I just bought 2 ea for $14.00 each they are 130 hi / 100 low watts H4 bulbs. Stock is 60 /55 watts. I run these in all my bikes, putruck, and Van. >> When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock >> bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > / 100 low watts H4 bulbs. Stock is 60 /55 watts. I run these in all > my bikes, putruck, and Van. Check the current draw agains the alternator capacity though and make sure that that leaves enough headroom for other lights, anything heated, and powered farkles.  Signature-- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) > >> When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock > >> bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > sure that that leaves enough headroom for other lights, anything heated, > and powered farkles. Might also want to check that the wiring is really able to carry that many amps without a problem. People sometimes add a relay and a heavier wire direct to the battery. Plan B would be a set of auxilliary lights for about the same price as the super duper blue ripoff bulb. >>>> When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock >>>> bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Plan B would be a set of auxilliary lights for about the > same price as the super duper blue ripoff bulb. Or spend some serious bucks for HID aux lights. Signature-- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) > > Plan B would be a set of auxilliary lights for about the > > same price as the super duper blue ripoff bulb. > > Or spend some serious bucks for HID aux lights. I keep waiting for LED headlights/aux lights. I think one or two mfrs are playing with them now. Surprisingly, I read that heat might be a problem. Don't know if this is true or not. > I keep waiting for LED headlights/aux lights. > I think one or two mfrs are playing with them now. > Surprisingly, I read that heat might be a problem. > Don't know if this is true or not. I have a 3V-lithium-battery-powered LED flashlight that gets surprisingly hot (1 battery). Surprisingly bright too. I think it even came with the requisite warning about the heat. I haven't burned myself yet :-) Surefire E1L, for the curious. http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/24263/sesent/00 >>> Plan B would be a set of auxilliary lights for about the >>> same price as the super duper blue ripoff bulb. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Surprisingly, I read that heat might be a problem. > Don't know if this is true or not. Gonna be a long time before LEDs can throw enough beam to replace HID and halogen headlights. Right now 5 watt Luxeons are state of the art and they're a _long_ way from being a replacement for a 65 watt halogen. Signature-- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) >> >> When I had my Virago, I was so disgusted with the dull & dim stock >> >> bulb that I bought the first/recommended brighter bulb at my dealer. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Plan B would be a set of auxilliary lights for about the >same price as the super duper blue ripoff bulb. a much better idea for much better coverage of roadway. at 80mph, you want a long reach to see the crap on the road. |
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