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Motorcycle Forum / General / Yamaha / September 2008What tools do you carry?
I recently bought a used 2000 VStar 650 Custom and noticed that the standard tool kit wasn't with the bike. What tools do you carry for just around town use? Thanks, Ray >I recently bought a used 2000 VStar 650 Custom and noticed that the > standard tool kit wasn't with the bike. What tools do you carry for > just around town use? I found the best way to decide what tools to carry was to do a few simple maintenance tasks, then carry the tools to complete those tasks. For my Burgman I carry a cheap 1/4 inch drive socket set, with a 1/4 inch drive extension, a plug spanner, screwdriver bits that you can use with the socket set, and a small adjustable spanner, plus any Allen keys required for small repairs. |><RFRoux@gmail.com> wrote in message |>news:nn6d64p7558o1miu0bqig4p9vsfq7vn10n@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] |>with the socket set, and a small adjustable spanner, plus any Allen keys |>required for small repairs. What about tyre repair kits like foam and slime, with a foot pump and meter along with some Tyre Strips and plugs? I carry way too much stuff, all of the above, adjustable wrenches, a vise grip, large flashlight, extra tie chains, mini booster cables, extra tie down straps and others.......might just be a overkill since my big Gorilla alarms in there too.  SignatureNational Association of Assault Research Soul Yamaha Majesty400 2005, Grey, Night Rider! (http://*remove*boblacasse.150.com/scooter.html) http://*remove*pages.istar.ca/~vampire/YamyMajesty400.jpg >|><RFRoux@gmail.com> wrote in message >|>news:nn6d64p7558o1miu0bqig4p9vsfq7vn10n@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >tie down straps and others.......might just be a overkill since my big >Gorilla alarms in there too. a co2 inflator and a patch kit for tubes. co2 and plugs for tubeless. for size and ease, the co2 beats it all. > � � � � What about tyre repair kits like foam and slime, with a foot pump > and meter along with some Tyre Strips and plugs? If you're going to use a chemical sealer, use Seal 'n' Air or some equivalent that contains liquid latex. Rubber compounding starts out with vegetable latex, so why not use something compatible with rubber? Do not use Slime or the other version of Slime (Ride On?) that claims it is made of a "thixotropic" chemical. Those tire sealers are made from propylene glycol which is corrosive like brake fluid. The only advantage of the propylene glycol vehicle is that it doesn't freeze. The actual sealing agent is a sort of fiber like lint. |>Those tire sealers are made from propylene glycol which is corrosive |>like brake fluid. The only advantage of the propylene glycol vehicle Brake Fluid is good for your tyres, it's sort of a very strong Rubber Renue............ A lot of VCR shops use brake fluid as preservative...but the action on hard plastics is just like some varnish it seems to be.... |>is that it doesn't freeze. The actual sealing agent is a sort of fiber |>like lint. I drive in a lot of cold..... > |><RFRoux@gmail.com> wrote in message > |>news:nn6d64p7558o1miu0bqig4p9vsfq7vn10n@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > tie down straps and others.......might just be a overkill since my big > Gorilla alarms in there too. foam and slime are two different things. I've been quite impressed with foam's ability to get a few (other) people home from the rain and cold quickly, even though one of them was still riding 100 klics a day on it two months later! (would have used it myself if my only two-wheeled puncture in the last twenty years hadn't happened to my bicycle when I hadn't thought to carry foam with me. foam seems to work okay for tubeless as well as tubed tires. the only thing that bugs me about it, same as so many modern products, is the packaging. it would be nice if they'd make a small aerosol can that i could stash with the toolkit - i don't need a can big enough to fill an auto tire when i'm on two wheels.) |>foam and slime are two different things. I've been quite impressed with |>foam's ability to get a few (other) people home from the rain and cold |>quickly, even though one of them was still riding 100 klics a day on it |>two months later! Yep, foam's great when it's raining and your stranded out there with all cages snearing by, some even laughing, especially if you wipe out... If you don't have a cell phone, your out of luck without the foam, and when dead tired, rasping and plugging is a bit of a chore.... + no insurance around here carries roadside for M/Cycles... |>(would have used it myself if my only two-wheeled puncture in the last |>twenty years hadn't happened to my bicycle when I hadn't thought to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] |>small aerosol can that i could stash with the toolkit - i don't need a |>can big enough to fill an auto tire when i'm on two wheels.) Then the can would cost just as much, just use a very small amount and pump the rest with air till it holds good, use minimal, and it won't (ball up, or is that an urban legend too???) 1 can will last about 7 punctures, but the stuff hardens yellow and needs a small squirt every year..... The Foam can is about the bulkiest article in the emergency kit....bigger than a small pump, or your D cell flashlight. I store a bulky foot pump as well, till I need the space for something else. I keep everything in clear plastic bag sections, so I can minimize the aggravation of dealing with a flat tyre on a roadside......easy to find stuff in the dark. > foam and slime are two different things. �I've been quite impressed with > foam's ability to get a few (other) people home from the rain and cold > quickly, even though one of them was still riding 100 klics a day on it > two months later! Who makes this "foam"? I've never seen an aerosol can that says "foam" on it. |>On Aug 30, 9:45?pm, paul c <toledobythe...@oohay.ac> wrote: |> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] |>Who makes this "foam"? I've never seen an aerosol can that says "foam" |>on it. Any kind of "car" tire sealant and inflator, like "gunk" Puncture Seal...ozone safe, non-flammable, about $10.00....... |>On Aug 30, 9:45?pm, paul c <toledobythe...@oohay.ac> wrote: |> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] |>Who makes this "foam"? I've never seen an aerosol can that says "foam" |>on it. Any kind of "car" tire sealant and inflator, like "gunk" Puncture Seal...ozone safe, non-flammable, about $10.00....... > � � � � Any kind of "car" tire sealant and inflator, like "gunk" Puncture > Seal...ozone safe, non-flammable, about $10.00....... Is tetrafluoroethane for the environment? http://www.gunk.com/msds/M11616.PDF EXTREME PUNCTURE SEAL 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane 811-97-2 10.0% - 30.0% 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 10.0% - 30.0% Ammonium hydroxide 1336-21-6 0.1% - 1.0% Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 10.0% - 30.0% Latex 34149-92-3 5.0% - 10.0% ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.gunk.com/msds/M1112NF.PDF PUNCTURE SEAL INSTANT TIRE REPAIR (UPC: 078698119335) 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane 811-97-2 10.0 - 30.0 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 10.0 - 30.0 Ammonium hydroxide 1336-21-6 0.1 - 1.0 Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 1.0 - 5.0 Latex 34149-92-3 3.0 - 7.0 ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gunk.com/msds/LPS14_6.PDF PUNCTURE SEAL OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT TIRE REPAIR 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane 811-97-2 20-40 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 10-30% Ammonium hydroxide 1336-21-6 0-1% Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 1-9% Latex 34149-92-3 3-10% -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gunk.com/msds/M1107_6.PDF PUNCTURE SEAL FOR OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane 811-97-2 10.0 - 30.0 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 10.0 - 30.0 Ammonium hydroxide 1336-21-6 0.1 - 1.0 Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 10.0 - 30.0 Latex 34149-92-3 5.0 - 10.0 --------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gunk.com/msds/M1128_6.PDF PUNCTURE SEAL INSTANT TIRE REPAIR (UPC: 078698821009) 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane 811-97-2 10.0 - 30.0 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 10.0 - 30.0 Ammonium hydroxide 1336-21-6 0.1 - 1.0 Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 1.0 - 5.0 Latex 34149-92-3 3.0 - 7.0 --------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gunk.com/msds/M11508.PDF PUNCTURE SEAL GOO Chemical Name CAS No. % Range Trade Secret Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 30.0 - 60.0% ----------------------------------------------------------- |>> ? ? ? ? Any kind of "car" tire sealant and inflator, like "gunk" Puncture |>> Seal...ozone safe, non-flammable, about $10.00....... [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] |>Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 30.0 - 60.0% |>----------------------------------------------------------- That's a good report, ................but it says on this can right in front of me: ====================== PUNCTURE SEAL GOLD OZONE-SAFE NON-FLAMMABLE ====================== In French and English BIG Red back and White Letters right on the front....... > � � � � In French and English BIG Red back and White Letters right on the > front....... I don't give advertising a whole lot of credibility, but I looked up 1,1,1,2, Tetrafluoroethane on Wikipedia, and they say that it's a replacement for the older aersosols and refrigerants that contained *chlorine*. It was the chlorine that was affecting the ozone layer. A can of Gunk Puncture Sealer cannot contain enough Tetrafluoroethane to properly inflate a tire, but there is ammonium hydroxide in the mix and apparently that stuff causes a significant pressure when the tire heats up a bit from the vehicle being driven slowly. Also, there is ethylene glycol in the mix, and ethylene glycol will eat the paint off of the inside of your rims and pit the aluminum, over a period of time. So far, I haven't found any kind of tire sealer in a can or bottle that doesn't have some sort of gotchas... |>Also, there is ethylene glycol in the mix, and ethylene glycol will |>eat the paint off of the inside of your rims and pit the aluminum, |>over a period of time. |> |>So far, I haven't found any kind of tire sealer in a can or bottle |>that doesn't have some sort of gotchas... Your pretty much right on that, but the hazards are greatly exaggerated on some items, but then who want to do the Rasp and Plug thing on the road, when a "Foam" squirt is just as good. Sometimes a combination of the slight foam and Rasp Plugs is good too...... |
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