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Help please - Yam 600 Divvy won't start...........

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GazW - 22 Sep 2003 15:34 GMT
It's a 1993 600 Diversion with 40k on the clock.

Been stood for 6 months on my drive (covered), now won't start.

I've taken out plugs and cleaned, it's got fuel, I've tried it with
choke in/out, fuel tap up/down/sideways all combinations. I'm not too
technically minded, but it was running great before.

Battery ok and been charged.

Any ideas please, I want to sell.

Thanks in advance.
Wolfie - 24 Sep 2003 16:33 GMT
How old is the fuel?

GW
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>It's a 1993 600 Diversion with 40k on the clock.
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>Thanks in advance.
e - 25 Sep 2003 05:30 GMT
you have to clean the carbs. the gas has turned tovarnish
and the jets are clogged. you can do it yourself or get
f.cked by a dealer.
anyone slightly tech savy cab do it in an hour or less.
get a service maual and save big.
the gas today has water, alcohol and crap in it. it turns to
sh.t very quickly.
if you live in socal, i'll do it for $50.
The Older Gentleman - 25 Sep 2003 07:14 GMT
> anyone slightly tech savy cab do it in an hour or less.

Like hell they can.

It depends how badly the carbs are varnished up. If all the little
galleries etc are clogged, it can be an utter, utter bitch of a job and
it's frequently easier to throw away the carbs and source another set.

Anyone who reckons they can completely sort out a set of *badly* clogged
four-cylinder carbs in an hour or less is talking bullshit IMHO.

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e - 25 Sep 2003 18:54 GMT
>> anyone slightly tech savy cab do it in an hour or less.
>
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>Anyone who reckons they can completely sort out a set of *badly* clogged
>four-cylinder carbs in an hour or less is talking bullshit IMHO.

my mistake, i thought it was a twin. quads can take much
longer, but i've never had to throw out carbs.
The Older Gentleman - 25 Sep 2003 19:17 GMT
> >> anyone slightly tech savy cab do it in an hour or less.
> >
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> my mistake, i thought it was a twin. quads can take much
> longer, but i've never had to throw out carbs.

Ah, twins are *a lot* easier.

I had to throw away a set from a Honda CB500T a couple of years ago - no
matter *what* I did to them it didn't run right.

I cleaned out jets, reset pilot screws, played with needle settings,
swapped over floats, jets, needles, jets with a dead set of carbs I had,
swapped over throttle slides, you name it.

Replacement set of carbs froma guaranteed working engine - and it went
perfectly.

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e - 26 Sep 2003 00:42 GMT
>Ah, twins are *a lot* easier.
>
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>Replacement set of carbs froma guaranteed working engine - and it went
>perfectly.

i've gotten so i can do a set of amals in 1/2 hour-:)
some honda carbs have tiny passages you can only find with a
service manual, like the quad set 28mm mikunis. if you son't
find and clear them, nothing will make them work.
i once had major problems with a yamay twinjet 100 carbs. i
finally left the main jets off and it ran perfectly.
The Older Gentleman - 26 Sep 2003 07:13 GMT
> i once had major problems with a yamay twinjet 100 carbs. i
> finally left the main jets off and it ran perfectly.

*Boggle*

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Frank Vassey - 27 Sep 2003 03:45 GMT
>>anyone slightly tech savy cab do it in an hour or less.
>
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> Anyone who reckons they can completely sort out a set of *badly* clogged
> four-cylinder carbs in an hour or less is talking bullshit IMHO.

The way to clean a varnished up carb is to get a carb soak used by
professional mechanics.  Dissasemble carb completely and remove all
fiber, rubber, plastic or composite parts, gaskets, O-ring seals etc.
(the soak will dissolve them.  Soak all of the metal parts of the carb
overnight and blow out with a high pressure air hose, especially the
small passageways.  Wash parts off with water first to neutralize the
soak, it's caustic, and will burn you.  I cannot say where you may
purchase this stuff in small lots, but you might try a NAPA autoparts
store.  I believe this stuff is called "Kleenacarb".  I used it on a
Honda 150 that wouldn't run many years ago and it fixed the problem.

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e - 28 Sep 2003 03:08 GMT
kinda thumper you have?
i have 4 sr 500's, an xt 500
and a honda gb500.
The Older Gentleman - 28 Sep 2003 09:56 GMT
> i have 4 sr 500

I had one of those recently. Rather fun.

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e - 28 Sep 2003 19:10 GMT
x=no

>> i have 4 sr 500
>
>I had one of those recently. Rather fun.

i have one cafe'd out. 540kit, 38mm flatside, 11 to 1
tuned exhaust, 46 ho at the wheel. put it on a diet with
spokers and clip-ons. love embarassing sport bikes between
lights. best canyon cutter ever.
and it will do the ton on a flat.
 
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